<p style=”text-align: left;”>@wesley:</p>
Not AVR, zidoo….

But…..

Either I’m stupid or I’ve missed something… why think that the CEC carries video, the CEC (pin 13 of the HDMI) only carries communication protocols… For example: when I turn on the Zidoo, the Zidoo sends its video and audio through the other pins, and pin 13 sends a signal to the Denon telling it to switch to the “media player” input (or other) to show the Zidoo video, then the Denon sends information to the TV via CEC (pin 13) to tell it to switch to the HDMI2 port because the Denon is broadcasting. But none of the audio or video goes through the CEC… (Before, there was no CEC and it worked).

The only difference is that Philips has made it stupid by saying it’s either all with CEC or nothing.

At Philips, every video device must communicate with Philips: Normally, all devices communicate with the Philips only if there is nothing between them. When there is an AVR between them, only the AVR communicates with the Philips (the AVR bypass option is there so that the Zidoo can communicate with the Philips if the AVR is turned off…).

If I follow your logic, not all devices are CEC-compatible, so if I have a non-CEC device connected to my AVR, what should I do?