[Toengel]

Dies ist der Diskussions-Thread zum Blog-Eintrag: Philips: Neue Firmware für 2023/2024/2025er High-End-TVs mit Google TV (TPM231WW: 201.100.146.220).

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[DidneyWorl1]

You could ask Philips Support if downgrading a 2025 model to ATV 12 will work…

[Toengel]

Hi

@Coco

Please see changelog, when the 2025 TVs were supported by TPM231WW:

Changelog TPM231WW (click/tap to expand)

TPM231WW_R.201.100.146.220 - Date: 2025/12/08

• Fix for picture dropout on HDMI
• Fix for flickering picture with higher refresh rates
• More general and stability improvements

TPM231WW_R.201.100.146.207 - Date: 2025/07/29

• Initial Android U for the 2K23, 2k24 model series
• Intro of Moments app for 2k25 model series
• General and stability improvements

TPM231WW_R.201.100.107.002 – Date: 2025/05/21

• Initial SW for the 2K25 OLED950 series
• Improvements for stability
• Improvements for video and picture quality

TPM231WW_R.201.100.086.203 – Date: 2025/04/23 – Android TV 14 (2023, 2024, 2025 TVs)

• Initial SW for the 2K25 OLED8x0, OLED910 series

TPM231WW_101.002.038.234 – Date: 2025/02/17

• Fix for abnormal picture color after wake up from standby
• Fix for unexpected launcher invoke
• General and stability improvements

TPM231WW_101.002.038.230 – Date: 2024/12/11

• Fix for app crashes during usage, freezes and slow navigation
• Fix for specific ambilight flicker on top of the screen in case of picture with black bars
• Removal of Belarus from the country list

TPM231WW_101.002.038.221 – Date: 2024/10/29

• Fix for ambilight flicker on top of the screen in case of picture with black bars
• Fix for wrongly shown OLED residual image pop-up message, shown too often
• Fix for automatic unwanted SD channel format change when using DVC signal
• Improvements for general ambilight performa nce and UI update
• Improvements for Picture Quality- Support for Multi view for OLED ranges

TPM231WW_101.002.038.210 – Date: 2024/09/12

• Initial SW for the 2K24 OLED959 series
• Improvements for stability (crashes, no startup, reboot, …)
• Improvements for Picture Quality eg Juddering picture

TPM231WW_101.002.038.208 – Date: 2024/08/28

• Fix for not starting up from standby
• Fix for automatic Software upgrade in standby failing
• Improvement for DVB descrambling issues resulting in no picture after start up or channel switch
• Improvement for Picture Quality eg juddering picture
• Removal of specific Demo me clip

TPM231WW_101.001.227.225 – Date: 2024/07/04 – Android TV 12 (2023, 2024 TVs)

• SW upgrade for 2K23 PUS and OLED ranges using TPM231WW_001.001.237.243. it’s including many improvements with the most important:
  • Audio quality
  • Picture quality and video stutter
  • Audio/video delay causing lipsync
  • Stability
• Fix for Ambilight flickering issue
• Fix for Wifi connection lost
• Fix for standby led too bright
• Fix for searching teletext
• Fix for juddering subtitles and picture when video panning is done
• Demo Me clip removed

TPM231WW_101.001.227.221– Date: 2024/06/07

• Changes implemented concerning the SmartTV app line-up

TPM231WW_101.001.227.211 – Date: 2024/05/27

• Fix for video stutter on USB source
• Fix for DVB descrambling issue resulting in no picture
• Fix for sound drops on HDMI
• Improvements for stability (crashes, no startup, reboot, …)

TPM231WW_101.001.148.225 – Date: 2024/04/18

• Improvements for stability (crashes, no startup, reboot, …)
• Improvements for video and picture quality

TPM231WW_101.001.148.214 – Date: 2024/03/01 – Android TV 12 (2024 TVs)

• Initial SW for the 2K24 OLED809 series

TPM231WW_R.001.001.237.243 – Date: 2024/04/xx

• tbc

TPM231WW_R.001.001.237.237 – Date: 2024/03/27

• Fix for bad audio, bass/voice level not OK
• Fix for audio drops from TV speakers
• Fix for audio/video lipsync after startup using set-top box
• Improvements for picture styles

TPM231WW_R.001.001.237.223 – Date: 2024/01/xx

• tbc

TPM231WW_R.001.001.237.212 – Date: 2023/11/xx

• tbc

TPM231WW_R.001.001.162.022 – Date: 2023/10/xx

• tbc

TPM231WW_R.001.001.091.215

• tbc

TPM231 WW_R.001.001.091.209

• tbc

TPM231WW_R.001.001.032.028 – Android TV 12 (2023 TVs)

• tbc

Toengel@Alex

[Coco]

@Alex,

Thank you very much!

If I understand correctly, since my 810 is from 2025, it is not compatible with Android 12 because the earliest version I can find in the changelog is TPM231WW:201.100.086.203, which is already running Android 14.

[DreckSoft]

Ich hab gerade festgestellt, dass das HDMI Problem der 207+ schlimmer ist als gedacht. Bei mir hängt alles am Yamaha Receiver. Wenn ich vom UHD Player was sehen will, dann wechselt der Fernseher selbständig auf HDMI2 sagt aber “kein Signal”. Ich kann dann aber manuell auf den 2. HDMI2 Eintrag ausweichen. Will ich aber von einer analogen Quelle am Receiver was ansehen, funktioniert das gar nicht, da kein 2. HDMI2 existiert. Neu starten des Fernsehers hilft auch nicht.

Damit leider vollständig unbrauchbar die ATV14 Software :(

[Thierry]

The folks at Philips believe that we only connect our video sources to Philips devices; they are unfamiliar with the concept of AVR.

The problem with Philips (in ATV14) is that it sees the AVR as a master logical address (which is normal), but it also sees the device connected to the AVR as a master logical address… instead of seeing it as a slave logical address. As a result, since it is the AVR that sends the signal to the Philips, it switches to the AVR signal which is actually just an audio output for Philips TVs, when thé AVR is turned on, hence the black screen… But the big question is, what do you do if you have a non-CEC-compatible device connected to the AVR (because it doesn’t see it)?

[cf]

Hallo

Für meinen 808 habe ich das Downgrade gemacht TPM231WW_R.101.002.038.234 (upgrade_loader).

Ich kann sagen, dass es keinerlei Probleme mit CEC EasyLink am Denon gibt. Denon am HDMI2, alle Zuspieler am Denon.

Auch andere Probleme sind kann ich nicht feststellen.

Ich kann also nur raten, wer kann sollte downgraden.

[DreckSoft]

@Thierry: That’s exactly what I desribed above your post. An analog input is obviously not CEC compatible. Therefore it simply does not work at all.

[Coco]

@Cf, thanks for your feedback!

But my 810 isn’t compatible with Android 12, so I can’t use this version… too bad…

I can’t wait for them to fix this!!!!

[Toutoune28]

I tried to downgrade the firmware to .220 to .207 without success on my 810.

I have a .pkg file with the .207 version. Do i have to connect it on the blue or black usb port ?

What is the good name of the firmware .pkg to put on the usb key ?

[DidneyWorl1]

unpack the upgrade_loader .zip to a 4-32GB USB 2.0 drive, pull TV’s power cord, insert USB drive in the USB 2.0 port (black), put in TVs power cord and in about 10 seconds you will get the blue downgrade progression screen…after initial setup do a factory reset.

[Thierry]

@DreckSoft :I understood… My question was more of an ironic question aimed at Philips (just in case… lol).

[Slai]

On 809 there is stuttering/lag when watching Dolby Vision and HDR 10+ content if motion smoothing is enabled. When motion smoothing is disabled completely, the stutter/lag disappears as well. I prefer using light motion smoothing, smoothing 2 – blur 2.

I have done some tests and I believe it happens when the source material is both DV (profile 8) and HDR 10+.
If source content is only DV (profile 5), no stuttering occurs.

This is obviously a problem when streaming from Netflix or such as you cannot change the source..

[Christian Scarpellini]

Hi, I hope this is the right thread for my question.

I have a 55OLED809/12 bought in France, I’m Italian, therefore I can’t select the Region Italy to have the correct LCN list for the DVB-T2 channels, and I’m forced to select “Other” and then create a favorites list in order to have the correct channel list.

But since lately several channels disappear at once, I have to modify almost daily the favorites list and re-order those channels, which is painful.

Since I found here the TPM231WW_R.201.100.146.220_upgrade_loader, I was asking myself whether this big firmware might help me to fully reset the TV and have Italy among the Regions for the DVB-T2 channels, or it does nothing because the Region Italy is encoded somewhere else…

Thanks in advance.

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[Toengel]

Hi,

since the OLED is for the whole EU market (there is no special version for Italian market), you should be able to set up Italy during TV setup…

Deactivate the “automatic channel update” option.

Toengel@Alex

[Thierry]

After yet another ticket with Philips, a more coherent response than the others…but I’m under no illusions:

My last message:

I would like to provide some further details:

– Models with firmware ..234 do not have this problem

– If we use a non-CEC device that is connected, the TV does not even see the HDMI stream from that device in its list of sources on the AVR, so the Philips TV does not allow us to view video from that device.

Philips, with ATV14, combines:

Video signal detection

CEC detection

Automatic source switching

 

Philips 2025 OLEDs never seem to consider an HDMI stream valid if no CEC is detected behind an AVR.

So the AVR relays the video stream, but the TV “ignores” the source if the device does not have CEC.

Result: signal active, but impossible to select or view.

 

Panasonic/LG/Sony/TCL → always display the HDMI input, regardless of CEC.

Philips → HDMI input only visible if CEC responds.

 

 

The response:

Dear Mr. xxxxxx,

 

Thank you very much for contacting Philips TV Support.

Thank you for all the detailed technical information you have provided.

 

Based on the information provided and the tests carried out, the behavior observed regarding the detection of HDMI inputs on your Philips OLED 2025 (ATV14) does indeed seem to indicate a firmware issue, particularly in relation to CEC management and HDMI source validation.

 

We can confirm that your case will be escalated to our technical/engineering team for further analysis. The following points will be specifically examined:

 

Validation of HDMI sources conditional on CEC detection.

 

Failure to display an active HDMI signal in the absence of a CEC device.

 

Possible regression compared to firmware version ..234.

 

Potential non-compliance with HDMI standards

 

Your feedback is very valuable and will contribute to the technical analysis.

 

We will get back to you as soon as we have feedback from the relevant team.

[Autor]

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