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Dies ist der Diskussions-Thread zum Blog-Eintrag: Philips: Neue Firmware für 2023/2024/2025er High-End-TVs mit Google TV (TPM231WW: 201.100.146.220).

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[Wesley]

@Thierry

If you block you’re Avr it’s normall the TV can’t get a signal from the zidoo? The Avr will passhtrough the display from the zidoo, if you disable /block Avr signal you won’t see any output.

[Thierry]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>@wesley:</p>
Not AVR, zidoo….

But…..

Either I’m stupid or I’ve missed something… why think that the CEC carries video, the CEC (pin 13 of the HDMI) only carries communication protocols… For example: when I turn on the Zidoo, the Zidoo sends its video and audio through the other pins, and pin 13 sends a signal to the Denon telling it to switch to the “media player” input (or other) to show the Zidoo video, then the Denon sends information to the TV via CEC (pin 13) to tell it to switch to the HDMI2 port because the Denon is broadcasting. But none of the audio or video goes through the CEC… (Before, there was no CEC and it worked).

The only difference is that Philips has made it stupid by saying it’s either all with CEC or nothing.

At Philips, every video device must communicate with Philips: Normally, all devices communicate with the Philips only if there is nothing between them. When there is an AVR between them, only the AVR communicates with the Philips (the AVR bypass option is there so that the Zidoo can communicate with the Philips if the AVR is turned off…).

[Thierry]

Without CEC, the user has to do all this using the remote control; that’s what CEC was for.

[Thierry]

If I follow your logic, not all devices are CEC-compatible, so if I have a non-CEC device connected to my AVR, what should I do?

[cf]

Hallo

Über das Problem mit den 2 HDMI2 in Verbindung mit AVR habe ich schon vor langer Zeit berichtet, ohne dass jemand dazu geantwortet hatte. Lesen denn alle wirklich alles oder zumindest aktuelle Beiträge?

Warum jetzt plötzlich so viele auf dieses ärgerliche Problem aufmerksam werden, ist ja erfreulich.

Ich möchte daher hier zum gefühlt zehnten Mal nachfragen, ob ein Downgrade nach TPM231WW_R.101.002.038.234 diese CEC Easy Link Fehler behebt?

 

 

[Thierry]

@cf

What’s your tv model ?

This reinforces what I think. If you reported it to Philips a long time ago and nothing has changed since then…it means that Philips doesn’t care and ultimately doesn’t give a damn about its customers.

[DidneyWorl1]

@cf

Einzig was mir beim ATV 12 Downgrade aufgefallen ist, ich konnte wieder per HDMI 2 auf meine Soundbar zugreifen und hatte nicht wie in ATV 14 nur ein schwarzes Bild.

Sonst habe ich leider nicht weiter rumprobiert.

 

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